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Anybody Recognize This?

22 May

Sea Hawk 1

Sea Hawk 2

— Tim

 
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  1. Tina

    May 22, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Captain Blood?

     

    • Gentleman Tim

      May 23, 2014 at 3:06 am

      It might be Blood, Tina, but I have an inside tip it’s Hawk. Who knows, may have been in both!! This great review of Blood has a photo of what looks to be some miniatures in battle.

      www.deepfocusreview.com…

      [img]http://www.deepfocusreview.com/reviews/images/captainblood6.jpg[/img]

       

  2. twinarchers

    May 22, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Is it a prop from a film?

     

  3. twinarchers

    May 22, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Or on Errol’s mantle?

     

  4. Gentleman Tim

    May 23, 2014 at 12:48 am

    This “miniature” is said to have a connection to The Sea Hawk. Regrettably, I do not have the ability at this time to review that masterpiece. Can anyone out there in Flynnland confirm that connection. I believe it was used for special effects in The Sea Hawk.

     

  5. twinarchers

    May 23, 2014 at 2:25 am

    I find it hard to believe that something that small could be used in the film. It it was it would be worth a small fortune.

     

    • Gentleman Tim

      May 23, 2014 at 2:53 am

      Evidence is that it did cost a small fortune, tw.

      I know one of the miniatures used in Hawk was about 18-feet, with a man inside operating it! This one is closer to 18-inches, as can be seen in comparison to the shot glass net to it.

      Anybody have a photo of The Sea Hawk’s Madre de Dios? The emblem on the sail might be a clue.

      Here’s some great stuff on the 18-ft miniature:

      books.google.com…

      Here’s a screenshot & image from The Sea Hawk, which appears to evidence the possible connection, I believe:

      pics.bbzzdd.com…

      [img]http://i.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2012/5/30/1338383794523/The-Sea-Hawk-004.jpg?width=620&height=-&quality=95[/img]

       

  6. twinarchers

    May 23, 2014 at 2:29 am

    Speaking of special effects there is a scene in ‘The Sea Hawk’ where the villain’s see the hero’s reflection in a wine goblet coming in to the cabin. Twenty three years later that same gag was in ‘Goldfinger’ only the reflection was in a woman’s eyes. Remember?

     

  7. Gentleman Tim

    May 23, 2014 at 3:45 am

    Looky here! According to this site, it is from The Sea Hawk!

    reghartt.ca/cineforum/?attachment_id=11168…

    reghartt.ca/cineforum/?attachment_id=11167…

    reghartt.ca/cineforum/?attachment_id=11166…

    reghartt.ca/cineforum/?attachment_id=11165…

     

  8. twinarchers

    May 23, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    After looking at it again it has to be a prop that was used as a decoration on a set and not used as a model in the water. Since that is a shot glass in the photo it proves to be just too small. With miniatures, water and fire are the problems and they have to be big or it just looks too fake. In the James Bond film The Spy Who Loved Me, the tanker was 60 feet longs and was propelled by a car engine and it looked great. That is an example of what is required with water.

     

    • Gentleman Tim

      May 23, 2014 at 3:41 pm

      I’m not sure in what capacity it was used, tw. In those images of multiple ships, such as those above, it seems that miniatures had to be used. What size I don’t know, but likely pretty small. You’re certainly right about the difficulties, but Warners’ Academy Award winning talent on Sea Hawk in this regard was “an embarrassment of riches”, as Art Directors Guild President Tom Walsh put it:

      www.adg.org…

      Perhaps one of us will recognize it in the movie, or find it in Anton Grot’s papers at UCLA Special Collections and/or in USC/Warner Brothers’ Archives.

      I do believe miniature ships of this size and kind were used in early films. Heck, even as late as King of the World’s Titanic, I’ve read the largest miniature used (of many) was a 45-ft, 1/20th scale, and that was some pretty convincing filming.

      Regarding the goblet, very cool. I do remember that! Do you think Goldfinger was paying homage to Sea Hawk?