Charming
Handsome
Chivalrous
Gentlemen
Celebrities
Personable
Multilingual
Controversial
Well- Dressed
Very Intelligent
Runyan Canyon
Anti-Authoritarian
Very Good Fighters
Zorro & Robin Hood
Very Good Horsemen
Still Revered by Many
Legendary Ladies Men
Became Famous in California
One was Named Errol L. Flynn
— Tim
Gentleman Tim
March 9, 2016 at 2:42 pm
This other fellow even has a famous formation of giant rocks named after him, though it was not in the canyon where both he and Errol lived:
[img]http://filmmakeriq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Star-Trek.jpg[/img]
And there’s a connection here, but it’s not to Ty or Bas themselves:
[img]http://thegreatwesternmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ZorroDuel.jpg[/img]
Tina
March 10, 2016 at 4:08 pm
Confusion CONFUCIUS
I read your description of the quiz and you state:
This other fellow even has a famous formation of giant rocks named after him, though it was not in the canyon where both he and Errol lived.
That would be David Niven as Errol never lived with anybody else. David Niven sure qualifies with your description but is it David?
The picture of Ty and Bus represents Zoro and Robin Hood – right?
The title says “Who were these two”, but you are naming one already – Errol – so are we still looking for two man or only another one?
Gentleman Tim
March 10, 2016 at 4:44 pm
You are such a great investigator, Tina!
Errol and this other revolutionary character lived in in the hills and canyons of Los Angeles at different times. They never met. Errol probably knew of the other famous fellow, but the other one not of him.
He was mentioned in a recent news article also mentioning Errol and the canyon.
[img]http://theredlist.com/media/database/films/tv-series/adventure-and-action/1950/zorro/027-zorro-theredlist.jpg[/img]
Tina
March 10, 2016 at 8:18 pm
Did he play Zoro as you show his picture? But Errol never plated Zoro.
You say: They never met.
So my question – in that case what has it got to with Errol?
geneingram1942
March 10, 2016 at 9:04 pm
Would this be Douglas Fairbanks, Sr, he played Zorro,
Gentleman Tim
March 11, 2016 at 4:30 am
Excellent answer, Gene, but incorrecto. Fairbanks did, however, know the history of this hombre. In fact, Fairbanks used to entertain people with tall tales about him, even used him as a model for his performance of Zorro!
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/FairbanksMarkofZorro.jpg[/img]
Tina
March 11, 2016 at 12:05 am
This picture you show with the hut on the bottom of the quiz what should it represent? Was that the house of the man we are looking for?
Gentleman Tim
March 11, 2016 at 4:35 am
That’s Huntington Hartford’s pool house in Runyon County, Tina
Tina
March 11, 2016 at 7:22 am
Hi Tim:
The answer is Tiburcio Vasques.
But this is a very odd quiz. It just doesn’t make sense it has nothing to do with Errol. Could you please explain your train of thought behind this quiz?
I was searching around to find a common denominator and thought only the Rock can bring the answer, i even googled “Niven Rock” etc., thinking of David.
Then i googled “which rock in a Californian canyon is named after a person” and lo and behold the first entry on the Google page: “Vasques Rocks”
I opened the page and there is the rock formation, which is in your quiz.
I thought wow this is it – now – who is this man and I find that his name is Tiburcio Vasques and he was a bandit in the eighteen hundreds a kind of Zorro and was hanged.
I am sorry Tim I fail to see any connection to Errol here at all.
Did you figure the common denominator between Errol and Tiburcio is Robin Hood? Now Errol played a bandit but he wasn’t one Tiburcio was a bandit and convicted as such. Errol was playacting but for Tiburcio that was his life.
Gentleman Tim
March 11, 2016 at 7:55 am
Congratulations, Tina, you got it – Tiburcio Vasquez, an inspiration behind Zorro. As featured in a very recent news article along with Errol. They were two of the very few famous people who lived at one time in Runyon Canyon, one of Errol’s last residences, and the infamous last residence of Senor Vasquez. Please note the list of similar traits between the two folk heros, as well as the fact that they both lived late in their lives in Runyon Canyon, where relatively few have ever lived, even though it’s in the heart of LA.
la.curbed.com…
See, also:
www.kcet.org…
hollywoodphotographs.com…
… “Zorro” & “Robin Hood”, former residents of Runyon Canyon
Tina
March 11, 2016 at 4:52 pm
Tim, in your first link “curbed” that is not Errol Flynn it is the so considered Italian Errol.
It is Amedeo Nazzari a very famous Italian actor at the same time as Errol.
It is said about Amedeo Nazzari that he was one of the leading figures of Italian classic cinema, often considered a local variant of the Australian-American movie star Errol Flynn.
I see where you are coming from with the residents of Runyan Canyon but please see my point.
I just don’t like Errol being compared with a notorius Bandit. He may have been the bases behind the Zorro figure but it does not state anywhere that Tiburcio looked after poor people or robbed for charity at least i can’t find anything about it. I hope you understand my feelings about that issue.
Gentleman Tim
March 11, 2016 at 8:14 pm
It certainly is a hotly debated issue how much of a Robin Hood-type figure Tiburcio Vasqyez was, Tina. I don’t know enough about him to say one way or the other. But, for many California Latinos “He was a symbol of hope and resistance” … “[he] was Robin Hood.” “To the Whites, he was an evil Mexican.”
I suspect Errol may have liked him, or at least his reputation and image.
www.santaclarita.com…
[img]http://www.truewestmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/tiburcio-vasquez.jpg[/img]
Gentleman Tim
March 11, 2016 at 8:39 pm
Thanks, too, for the 411 on Amadeo, Tina. He should have been locked up for impersonating the one and only Flynn. “In Like Nazzari” just doesn’t worka like it should.
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Amedeo_Nazzari_Il_brigante_musolino.jpg[/img]
Tina
March 14, 2016 at 9:03 pm
Tim, I have never seen a movie from Amedeo Nazzari I just knew him from Austrian movie magazines when i was a teenager.
Sorry, I can’t tell you anything about him or his movies only that he was considered the Italian Errol Flynn.
The Zaca
March 14, 2016 at 1:25 am
Huell Howser does a great hike up Runyon Canyon and you will be shown Alan Hale’s former home, and a tennis court EF frequented at the old McCormack Estate…great flick:
www.kcet.org…
Tina
March 14, 2016 at 9:42 pm
Hi Zaca, thanks for sharing this most amazing video, which I enjoyed watching very much. A real interesting subject and a wonderful trip into Hollywood history. The houses are stunning and they show the tennis court Errol sometimes played on it obviously when he was a guest of John McCormack who owned Runyon Canyon at that time. Also seen is Dolores Del Rio’s house, very beautiful and she too was a good friend of Errol.
A very exquisite video!
Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia about John McCormack the famous Irish opera singer often compared to Enrico Caruso.
McCormack also bought Runyon Canyon in Hollywood in 1930 from Carman Runyon. McCormack saw and liked the estate while there filming Song o’ My Heart (1930),[7] an early all-talking, all-singing picture. McCormack used his salary for this movie to purchase the estate and built a mansion he called ‘San Patrizio’, after Saint Patrick. McCormack and his wife lived in the mansion until they returned to England in 1938.
McCormack toured often, and in his absence the mansion was often let to celebrities such as Janet Gaynor and Charles Boyer. The McCormacks made many friends in Hollywood, among them Errol Flynn, Will Rogers, John Barrymore, Basil Rathbone, Ronald Colman, Charles E. Toberman and the Dohenys. After his farewell tour of in 1937, the McCormacks deeded the estate back to Carman Runyon expecting to return to the estate at a later date. World War II intervened and McCormack did not return.