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What Musical Composition?

08 Sep

What musical composition from one of Errol’s greatest films was used very prominently in other top films?

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1) Beethoven had previously performed the composition.

2) Used in the films of other cinematic legends.

3) Most notably in films featuring megastar contemporaries of Errol’s.

4) By multiple studios.

5) Used previously to Errol’s film, in a very popular movie, with a Golden Age immortal.

6) Used in several major films subsequent to Errol’s.

7) Also notably used in a movie subsequent to Errol’s, starring a contemporary Hollywood superstar, in a film regarded by many as one of the greatest movies ever made.

— Tim

 
 

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  1. rswilltell

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    September 8, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    Tim; Give us a few more clues.

     
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    September 8, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    Gary Owen of course!

     
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      September 8, 2015 at 5:31 pm

      Great work!

       
    • Gentleman Tim

      September 9, 2015 at 10:29 am

      Congratulations, twinarchers! That’s excellent. Seven clues for the 7th Calvary. And the Fighting 69th in 1940 with Jimmy C!

      [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Fighting_69th_VHS_cover.jpg[/img]

       
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    September 9, 2015 at 1:42 am

    Absolutely “Garry Owen” and I love that march!
    Here are some details I keep on my computer under Errol’s documentations I found on the internet years ago.

    “Garry Owen” is an old Irish quick-step that can be traced back to the early 1860’s. In 1867, “Garry Owen” was adopted by the 7th Cavalry Regiment as the official march of the Regiment, and the historical nickname given to the 7th Cavalry Regiment and Troopers. It became the Official tune of the 1st Cavalry Division in 1981. “Garry Owen” has become undoubtedly the most famous of all the regimental marches in the Army.

    The words Garry Owen derives from Irish, the proper name Eóghan (“born of the yew tree”) and the word for garden garrai – thus “Eóghan’s Garden”. The term refers to an area of the town of Limerick, Ireland.

    “Garry Owen” is known to have been used by Irish regiments as a drinking song. As the story goes, one of the Irish “melting pot” Troopers of the 7th Cavalry, under the influence of “spirits”, was singing the song. By chance Custer heard the melody, liked the cadence and soon began to hum the tune to himself. The tune has a lively beat, that accentuates the cadence of marching horses, and for that reason was adopted as the regimental song soon after Custer arrived at Fort Riley, Kansas to take over command of the 7th Cavalry Regiment. It was the last song played for Custer’s men as they left General Terry’s column at the Powder River and rode into history.

    The tune became the official “Air” of the Regiment in 1867 and actually became the official tune of the entire 1st Cavalry Division in 1981.

    The significance of the tune in the Regiment’s history led to it being incorporated into the Regimental crest, along with the raised saber.

    When Soldiers salute an officer, they also traditionally give the “greeting of the day” or the regimental motto. So when any soldier, anywhere, in the 7th Cav salutes, they sound off with “Garry Owen, Sir!”

    Original Version:

    Let Bacchus’ sons be not dismayed
    But join with me, each jovial blade
    Come, drink and sing and lend your aid
    To help me with the chorus:

    Chorus
    Instead of spa, we’ll drink brown ale
    And pay the reckoning on the nail;
    No man for debt shall go to jail
    From Garryowen in glory.

    We’ll beat the bailiffs out of fun,
    We’ll make the mayor and sheriffs run
    We are the boys no man dares dun
    If he regards a whole skin.(Chorus)

    Our hearts so stout have got no fame
    For soon ’tis known from whence we came
    Where’er we go they fear the name
    Of Garryowen in glory. (Chorus)

    We’ll beat the bailiffs out of fun,
    we’ll make the mayor and sheriffs run,
    we are the boys no man dare dun,
    if he regards a whole skin. (Chorus)

    Our hearts so stout have got us fame,
    for soon ’tis known from whence we came,
    where’re we go they dread the name,
    of Garry Owen in glory. (Chorus)

    7TH Cavalry Version

    We are the pride of the army,
    And a regiment of great renown,
    Our name’s on the pages of history,
    From sixty six on down.
    If you think we stop or falter,
    While into the fray we’re goin’
    Just watch the step with our heads erect
    When our band plays “Garry Owen.”

    Chorus:
    In the Fighting Seventh’s the place for me.
    It’s the cream of all the cavalry;
    No other regiment ever can claim
    It’s pride, honor, glory, and undying fame.

    We know no fear when stern duty
    Calls us far away from home,
    Our country’s flag shall sagely o’er us wave,
    No matter where we roam.
    T’is the gallant Seventh Cavalry,
    It matters not where we’re goin’
    such you’ll surely say as we march away,
    When our band plays “Garry Owen.”
    (Chorus)

    Then hurrah for our brave commanders!
    Who lead us into the fight.
    We’ll do or die in our country’s cause.
    And battle for the right.
    And when the war is o’er
    And to our home we’re goin’
    Just watch the step, with our head erect,
    When our band plays, “Garry Owen.”

    Here it is:

    youtu.be/4m7RPjQxjmAEnjoy…!

     
    • Gentleman Tim

      September 9, 2015 at 10:45 am

      Flynntastic info, Tina! It’s astonishing how much you know about Errol!!

      Beethoven did two versions, and so did Max Steiner!!

      youtu.be/XQxCy0CYGJE… (commencing @ ~ 2:10)

      [img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-n4-7ug0L._SX940_.jpg[/img]

       
      • Tina

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        September 12, 2015 at 2:24 am

        Thanks Tim;
        I collected a lot of info over the years about Errol’s films and sometimes it’s still not enough.
        Yes, I know Beethoven written two versions but I don’t know, which is the one the actual song comes from.
        Take care!

         
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          September 12, 2015 at 4:14 pm

          Dear Tina, here’s another trivia for you. You were corresponding here on the blog with another female author. This could be 4-5 years back. She claimed to work on a book about Errol in his twilight years. Whatever happened to that pet project? Do you remember her and could you ask how her work is coming along?

           
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            September 14, 2015 at 6:32 pm

            Hi Heinz;
            Wow, I sure got to put my thinking cap on who that was. Can’t remember at present, but if I do I will let you know, sorry about that. It maybe was Patty, I know she intended to write a book, but her subject was different not the twilight time of Errol. Maybe something will twig or somebody else may know about it too on this blog?
            Take care!

             
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              September 15, 2015 at 9:21 pm

              You are right on target, Tina. What was the theme of Patty’s pet project? Can you ask her to post an update here? Thanks.

               
        • Gentleman Tim

          September 13, 2015 at 8:31 am

          Hi Tina. As I understand it, Beethoven’s arrangements omit the chorus of the original Irish folk song. That being so, I believe Max Steiner relied primarily not on either of Ludwig’s versions, but, rather, on the military march being used by the U.S. Calvary in the first half of the 20th Century. Perhaps, though – being the classically trained musical scholar he was – he did adapt some of “the Mighty Beethoven’s” approach and arrangements.

          Slainte, Tina.

          bit.ly/1QaawwG…

          [img]http://beethovensirishsongs.ie/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/cd_cover_med.jpg[/img]

           
          • Tina

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            September 14, 2015 at 6:22 pm

            Hi Tim, thanks for the explanation! I am not up to par on this or any musical subject or any musical arrangements, maybe the ears are out of sink , hahaha,
            I just wrote what i read. But I am glad Beethoven had a say in it! I love the march!
            Take care!