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Ghostship Zaca III

08 Apr

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Dear fellow Flynn fans,

this is the post where we come close but come up short detecting the ZACA at various locations: www.theerrolflynnblog.com…

Blogmaster Witty Dave asked his self before, if that could be the ZACA in the film “The Monte Carlo Story”: www.theerrolflynnblog.com…

The answer is Yes, but No. The yacht used in the movie supposedly was the FAVORITA.

The FAVORITA was a clipper ship, built in 1862 in Mystic, CT. The ship’s first owner was J.A. McGaw. The FAVORITA was rated at 1231 tons, and dimensions were 188′ x 37′ x 24′. The ship was built to trade between its home port of New York, San Francisco, and the United Kingdom. She was sold in 1874 to Pray & Dickens, also of New York, and to German owners Schilling & Meinke in 1879. The FAVORITA continued to trade until 1891, when it was reported to be hulked in East Africa.

She sailed at various regattas. See: www.nytimes.com…

My question to you Flynnmates now goes like this: With the boat looking exactly like the ZACA, could it be that many photos on the net of Errol`s sailor pride actually depict the FAVORITA?

Take a peep for yourself at FAVA in moving pictures over here: www.youtube.com…

Zacahoy,

— shangheinz

 

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  1. Gentleman Tim

    April 8, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    First-Class clipperheinz.

    A new mystery originating in old Mystic.

    Was Blue Nose possibly based on Favorita?

    [img]http://collections.mcny.org/Doc/MNY/Media/TR3/7/1/1/6/M2Y26099.jpg[/img]

     
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      April 9, 2016 at 11:15 am

      [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Kiel-11-Netz.jpg[/img]

      Genuine Topmast Tim. But there are more impersonators out at sea- like the IDUNA for example. We just have to sail on and see…

       
      • Gentleman Tim

        April 10, 2016 at 7:38 am

        Idunno if I see as many similarities with the Iduna, skipperheinz.

        [img]http://www.sailingyachtiduna.com/images/iduna/Iduna-nieuw.jpg[/img]

         
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          April 10, 2016 at 10:56 am

          [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Bundesarchiv_Bild_134-B1173_Jacht__Iduna_.jpg[/img]

          Lean on me, Gentleman Tilt. I am inclined to say that after a slight blue nose job, the IDUNA would make for another great ZACA lookalike.

           
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            April 10, 2016 at 8:53 pm

            Dealest Heinz;
            There are many so called ‘Look-alikes” but each yacht has it’s distinct individuality.
            Look at the helm of the IDUNA as per your video at 54.04 to 07 from the Monte Carlo movie with Marlene Dietrich and then look at the Zaca helm. Also look at the different stern arch curvation!

            [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ZACA-monte_carlo_story_1957_marlene_dietrich_20101123012914.jpg[/img]

            [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Zaca-Lady.jpg[/img]

            Then look at the port hole configuration of the IDUNA and the ones of the ZACA entirely different.
            This is the IDUNA:

            [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Zaca-Iduna.jpg[/img]

            This is Errol’s ZACA:

            [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Zaca1950s.jpg[/img]

            And just to confuse you thoroughly here is another ZACA:

            [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ZACA-A-TE-MOANA-2.jpg[/img]

            It is the ZACA A TE MOANA – pretty good look alike hahaha!

             
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              April 21, 2016 at 1:37 pm

              [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/moana.jpg[/img]

              Dear Tugboat Tina, taking about blurred visions. I have been aboard the ZACA A TE MOANA in 2011. As soon as I saw that two masted schooner in Villefranche, I swam 2 miles through the port (don`t do this at home Flynn kids!) to be granted only a breather on deck by the Skipper while the owner was on a land trip. At that time I thought to have visited the original ZACA, but infact the ZATM is a much bigger rebuilt version out of Amsterdam. I learned that only later on!

               
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    April 8, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    Wow this sure does complicate things.

     
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      April 9, 2016 at 11:32 am

      [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/N_EW_10_G.jpg[/img]

      Twains, there is hope on the horizon. A friend of mine, René Meester, the Skiing Dutchman, is an avid sailor with a keen eye for detail. Here is what he lets us know comparing the FAVA to the ZACA:

      “My contribution to the discussion whether the Zaca is the Favorita as well: comparing pictures of both I see 3 diffences: the Zaca’s spanker sail – the sail at the back of the boat) extends further back even over the stern while the Favorita’s spanker sail is shorter; the Zaca has the main cabin a bit more forward than the Favorita, and there’s a difference in the pattern of the round windows in the hull. So the two boats are definitely not the same. Which boat then was used in the movie ? I leave that mistery to be resolved by others…..”

      Thank you Cap René, we are looking forward to more competent comments from you in the future!

       
      • Gentleman Tim

        April 10, 2016 at 7:52 am

        Thank you, Cap Rene! That’s some magnificent insight and analysis. … Errol wouldn’t sail just any set of portholes.

        Are not the arches on the sterns different, also? …Which would be a clue in re the movie, too.

        [img]http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/cf3bdd4008354105b89ab130fd294fd0/errol-flynns-yacht-zaca-f5rjna.jpg[/img]

         
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          April 10, 2016 at 11:07 am

          [img]http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Black-ZACA.jpg[/img]

          On stern of that, the black ZACA would always be equipped with very cool figures.

           
          • Gentleman Tim

            April 10, 2016 at 4:08 pm

            Even your stern comments are fun, schoonerheinz.

            So much so it appears Cap Flynn himself is now in on the research:

            [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o-9lv8LSWxw/T0WXJsWXhcI/AAAAAAAABcI/qOuRqEOaAxg/s320/Flynncandidboatnew6.jpg[/img]